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Old 02-22-2006, 02:27 AM
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GPRS Connection questions

Hello there.

I recently bought myself a BT-77 bluetooth GPRS adapter, and even though i RTFM (Read The...... Manual ) I cannot connect.
I have paired the two devices, and I kinda get lost at the bit where you set the new outgoing and new incoming COM ports.
My PC is currently set to COM port 7, and the only other option is COM port 8 for both incoming and outgoing.

Is there a way to open more COM ports, and how do you actually connect to another bluetooth device, as I have found the AXIM x51 kinda rubbish in its Bluetooth navigation options.

Thanks in advance

EDIT: sorry, not GPRS, but GPS issue

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Old 02-22-2006, 09:56 AM
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The Axim BT configuration could be more friendly, but it works once set up properly. Have a look at my Bluetooth guide to familiarize yourself with the options.

Make sure your Axim is not controlling your ports for a GPS that isn't there. In Start-->Settings-->GPS, disable all the options (hardware none, software none, uncheck automanage). Sometimes it's good to just delete whatever you've configured in the Bluetooth manager and allow the Axim to redetect BT devices from scratch after recreating outgoing/incoming ports.
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Old 02-22-2006, 10:51 AM
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Hi buddy, it's me.

I noticed that you thinking of trying to set your Axim COM port 8 for both incoming and outgoing bcos your PC is using COM7.

Do this:
1.Set Incoming to COM 7.
2. Set Outgoing to COM 8.

Think of it this way:
Food goes IN thru the mouth.
It comes OUT ... some way else.

This theory works for all devices.

Last edited by enquerir; 02-22-2006 at 12:32 PM. Reason: Typo error
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Old 02-22-2006, 10:59 AM
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It is impossible to set a port as both incoming and outgoing. I believe what Supercow meant was that COM 8 is available for either incoming or outgoing and his COM 7 is already configured.
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Old 02-22-2006, 11:30 AM
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Hi Mahstah,

I agree with you that it is impossible to use/create a single port for both incoming & outgoing signals.

I believe Supercow was confused ... his statement "My PC is currently set to COM port 7, and the only other option is COM port 8 for both incoming and outgoing."

Sounds like he "thought" that he cannot use COM7 bcos his desktop is using it. All he has to do is set his incoming & outgoing ports opposite each other.

He is thinking of opening more ports. He is not aware that he can re-use both ports (7/8) for each different partnerships.

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Hi Supercow,

Just to clarify your post:
1. Are you thinking that since your PC is using COM7, you can only have COM8 for both IN & OUT ports?
2. Are you trying to create another port because COM7 is used by PC; and COM8 if used for INCOMING, you need 1 more for OUTGOING (i.e. COM9)?

The ports (COM7, COM8) that you set up in your Axim, is for the Axim only.

It has nothing to do with your PC (desktop).

You can re-use the 2 ports for each different device (partnership). It means you can use COM7 & COM8 many times. You don't have to create new ports.

I hope this helps & eventually resolve what you're trying to achieve.

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The step by step guide attached below is removed to avoid confusing the user. It is for a different device (Bluetooth GPS Receiver).

Last edited by enquerir; 02-22-2006 at 12:27 PM. Reason: Guide is for wrong device
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Old 02-24-2006, 03:32 AM
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Hi guys, thanks for the replies.

Yes currently my PC is already on Port 7, and the only other port i can see in the list is port number 8, hence me not beeing able to set the "in and out" (that sentence did make sense in my head )
Reading your post enquerir, you mean that I can use com port 7 (on Axim) for use for GPS, since the com ports have already been set on my PC ?

Mahstah, its coz of that thread of yours i originally got my PDA sync'ed via BT on my PC/activesync
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Old 02-24-2006, 11:34 AM
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Hi Sup3rc0w,

"Reading your post enquerir, you mean that I can use com port 7 (on Axim) for use for GPS, since the com ports have already been set on my PC ?"

If you're defining ports in ''Start/Settings/Connection/Bluetooth/COM Ports''?, then it's YES, use it.

The serial ports, COM7 & COM8, that you set here is for Axim only. One is use for IN, the other is use for OUT.

Please ask if this is hot clear.
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Old 02-24-2006, 05:41 PM
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I'm still missing something here.
I saw a reply Mahstah posted in some other thread about the same topic, and changed a corrupted serial entry (had some weird russian dll description hingy )
I still dont know how to actually connect to the BT device

On my PDA, the BT settings are as follows now

BT GPS (COM 8)
Incoming port (COM7) -----------> was under the impression that I had set outgoing as above and that 7 will be incoming, and will read like this BT GPS Incoming (COM7) or something to that effect
New outgoing Port

In my GPRS setting on PDA I have the following

GPS program port COM1
GPS Hardware port COM8 Baud rate 9600
Manage GPS Automatically, checked

In TomTom "Other Bluetooth GPS" configuration i have the following


Native IR:
COM3:
BT UART on COM5:
Serial Cable on COM1:


Im confused

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Old 02-25-2006, 04:45 AM
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Bt Gps

It's difficult to guess when you are not specific. You should also use the manufacture's default settings.

Try this:
GPS Program Port: COM4
GPS Hardware Port: COM1
Baud Rate: 4800
(appears low, but should not be a problem)

Have you tried Mahstah's suggestion? ... disabled GPS management (set program/hardware com port to (none) and uncheck manage GPS).

Its important that you let others know what you have or have not done.

In the manual, to connect, you press & hold your device & select Connect.

You should also check with the manufacturer for driver update (if any).

You mentioned about corrupted serial entry. Since you mentioned, here is the fix, to the corrupted COM1. It will ONLY fix corrupted COM1 & nothing else.

1. Use/start a registry editor on your AXIM.
2. Go to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\Serial
3. Look for a key FriendlyName with the data Se?a ?a?d? st? COM1:
4. Change that broken string to:
Serial Cable on COM1:
5. Exit the editor using File/Exit.
6. Do a Complete Power Off ... your Axim.

After you restart, you should see "Serial Cable on COM1".

Is your BT working ... can establish partnership?

Your TomTom settings are good.

If you have a problem or any other problem, ask directly. An indirect question will lead to an indirect respond, i.e. mislead.

Good luck.

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Originally Posted by sup3rc0w
I'm still missing something here.
I saw a reply Mahstah posted in some other thread about the same topic, and changed a corrupted serial entry (had some weird russian dll description hingy )
I still dont know how to actually connect to the BT device

On my PDA, the BT settings are as follows now

BT GPS (COM 8)
Incoming port (COM7) -----------> was under the impression that I had set outgoing as above and that 7 will be incoming, and will read like this BT GPS Incoming (COM7) or something to that effect
New outgoing Port

In my GPRS setting on PDA I have the following

GPS program port COM1
GPS Hardware port COM8 Baud rate 9600
Manage GPS Automatically, checked

In TomTom "Other Bluetooth GPS" configuration i have the following


Native IR:
COM3:
BT UART on COM5:
Serial Cable on COM1:


Im confused

Last edited by enquerir; 02-25-2006 at 11:17 AM. Reason: Incomplete
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Old 02-25-2006, 05:29 PM
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In the manual, to connect, you press & hold your device & select Connect.
Thats what I cannot get my head around, the BT interface in the Axim, if I press down and hold on the partnered device I want to connect to, the only options that come up are
Edit
Delete
Set as Hands free (greyed out)

Also getting really frustrated, as i know my post isnt too clear, but its the best I can do, since Im more confused than a chicken that Laid a Ballbearing.
I cannot find ANY step by step guide on the net on how to set up BT GPRS with the Axim51v and TomTom
(found great one on Activesync and BT on a link on these very forums )

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