Hi enquerir, i FINALLY got it cracked

One router was using b and g (the one i could get onto)
and the other was just using b at the time. I changed the router settings and did a hard restart on the router and voila
Thanks for the offer though
ps: add me to your msn anyways, im sure ill annoy you with a million other nooby questions though

I can do with some advice on what killer apps to get for the PDA
deonfouche@gmail.com